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LOL is that you? you must be the twin brother of a guy i know from the gym.

   btw i dont understand a single word except el americano. lol

LOL

dat's me, photochop away for all i care. and essentially it's in response to the protester's picture making it's way around the net where he's holding up a sign that says ''no illegals, no burrittos (better think twice america)''

   

   so i responded in his native language with (translated): 'go f*** your burrittos and yourself, american's eat hoagies'

lmao, i am spanish and i dont understand a thing, but nevermind, in 5 or 10 years you ALL are going to write and speak good spanish lmao! (or mexican slang) lol

heheheh not I

Of course you will. lmao. (in the above post i almost wrote ..included main )

don't believe it. being 80% of the world uses english for busines, 100% of the world uses english for contact between airport towers and flights. no one is going to redub all hollywood's movies anytime soon.

   

   however, i will change my name to mi ammo es el torro de las panoccas

Yah you should stand up for your countries rights, i wish Britain would do the same, theres over 750,000 (severely underestimated i reckon) running around here just doing as they please - murder/rape/ you name it, then they jail them for a little while and release them back onto the streets and then they lose track of where they are!

   

   Theres over 1000 (probably underestimated again) that have been released when they were to be deported and they cant find them!!!

   

   Hows that for looking after your public :((

   

   I know who im voting for this time.

bugger the boarders

   where all just people no beter or worse than each other we and all took our land from someoen or sumthing

   who cares where you from just call yourself a person and live ya life

   why should i be given all the benifits that i get because just im an australian and some one else who was born some where else gets nothing

   

   do we deserve more because we were born in lucky countries?

   

   and if you wanna keep ya borders we should just let people into our countries and allow them to become a citizen

   then we would have no foriners or illigals

jas, i'm all for the big ''we R the world'' experiment/fantasy that resides in every rational thinking human being what i am against is the the irrationality that a group should have the rules bent for them (after said group has broken the rules numerous times) simply because they feel they can blackmail at will. of the millions who ''protested' the proposed bills/laws, how many do you really believe took part in the ''day with no work'' based on their support of illegal immigrant rights as apposed to support of their nationality (ie. 'dammit to hell i have no clue what this olympic event is but dammit to hell again, the american guy better win win win..) or simply because they wanted an excuse to take the day off ('i dare you to fire me for expressing my views !')

   

   i rank these yahoos up there with 'squatters rights'. neither feels like working for what could be theirs. go on anyone and argue on ''how can anyone have a chance when you first have to get over a 20' wall and then run through hoops and rings ?''. well, if members of a group had followed the rules in the first place, new rules wouldn't be needed.

   

   us irish (i'm philly irish; no, not from ireland) never protested and threatened a ''day of sobriety'' in protest to the condition of the ships bringing us over three generations ago. neither did the italians avow ''a day of legit business'' nor the polaks (relax, my wife is one) ''a day of no bad jokes'', greeks ''a day of no back door entry'', the asians ''a day of no take out'' , french ''a day of no snootiness'', scottish ''a day of no beam me ups'' , aussies ''a day of now 'ello bruce !'' , chvecks '' a day of no ....something'' , brazilians ''a day of no 'hey i'm not a former nazi criminal''', ......

   

   what's say instead of fighting for rights of a group of people or fighting for rights of the individual we just follow the basic rules of the above 'great society experiment' and simply have ''an existence of good fellowship to any being who breathes'', k ?

   

   sure would make my lifetime go a lot quicker until we move onto that higher plane.

you speak of this "group" as they are 1 person and all responsible for the actions of a few

   how many times have someone in your "group" broken the law does that mean its your fault and you should be punnished

   

   and you talking about breaking or bending rules for this "group"

   its a system that the rules where set up certain "groups" its easy to say just follow the rules if your in one of them

   

   imagigin standing on the crap side of the river

   and its partly your "groups" fault they have it so bad over there

   

   whats so bad about a bit of other coultures its not gonna turn you asian if you eat stir fry

   a bit of a culture mixin is a good thing

   

   its like you think it wasnt just lucky for you to have been born in america, like you think you deserce to have been born in a lucky part of the world more that every1 who wasnt

   

   

   

   

   rich mans wet dream

   the people drone then die

   

   a thousands religions with 0% proof

   

                     ******** This is the onle plane your gonna get dont waste it ********

   

   

   there is a reason this fantasy/experiment wont work it is that people like you have all the power

   

   i bet that was bushes solution

   ""we should build a really really big wall!!!""

   

   goin a little 1984 arnt yas

   

   why dont ya just lay land mines at the border?

   you guys still use them dont ya

   

   mabie if you bomb there cities theyll obay your rules?

   

   "They Took Our Jobs"

anyone who thinks of a ''group'' as a single entity may need to stop listening to that group of voices in their head. by group i was referring to illegals and those who support illegal alien rights. i did not simply put 'hispanics' for the very reason you stated, i do not believe that all hisapnics take one side or the other.

   

   so again..........group = the people breaking the laws & the people who support breaking the laws.

   

   

   please take a deep breath, understand what ''group'' means and reread my post.

   

   thank you.

i understood what you ment

it was from reading the rest of your post that it " "ed it

i don't think you do understand but i'm not here to rile up too many people[yellow]*[/yellow]. in closing sir, four words...

   

   give an aborigine your job

   

   

   

   

   

   

   

   

   [yellow]admins[/yellow]- please understand the i am aware what this site is based on and that i do understand what this specific forum if for. i will not carry any views/opinions of other members into other forums. this is an offtopic forum and i'll keep my non mohaa opinions in here.

ill give you Five words

   

   I dont have a job

   

   and no wonder your scared about losin ya job to an imigrant

   did ya get a finger cut off or somethin?

i'm retired five years, kid. you'll have to explain

   

   

did ya get a finger cut off or somethin?

   

   to me and it's relevancy to illegal immigrants in my country. in the meantime, read this letter written by a US border patrolman...

   

   

Dear Senator Frist:

   There is a huge amount of propaganda and myths circulating about illegal aliens, particularly illegal Mexican, Salvadorian, Guatemalan and Honduran aliens.

   

   1. Illegal aliens generally do NOT want U.S. citizenship. Americans are very vain thinking that everybody in the world wants to be a U.S. citizen. Mexicans, and other nationalities want to remain citizens of their home countries while obtaining the benefits offered by the United States such as employment, medical care, in-state tuition, government subsidized housing and free education for their offspring. Their main attraction is employment and their loyalty usually remains at home. They want benefits earned and subsidized by middle class Americans. What illegal aliens want are benefits of American residence without paying the price.

   

   2. There are no jobs that Americans won't do. Illegal aliens are doing jobs that Americans can't take and still support their families. Illegal aliens take low wage jobs, live dozens in a single residence home, share expenses and send money to their home country. There are no jobs that Americans won't do for a decent wage.

   

   3. Every person who illegally entered this nation left a home. They are NOT homeless and they are NOT Americans. Some left jobs in their home countries. They come to send money to their real home as evidenced by the more than 20 billion dollars sent out of the country each year by illegal aliens. These illegal aliens knowingly and willfully entered this nation in violation of the law and therefore assumed the risk of detection and deportation. Those who brought their alien children assumed the responsibility and risk on behalf of their children.

   

   4. Illegal aliens are NOT critical to the economy. Illegal aliens constitute less than 5% of the workforce. However, they reduce wages and benefits for lawful U.S. residents.

   

   5. This is NOT an immigrant nation. There are 280 million native born Americans. While it is true that this nation was settled and founded by immigrants (legal immigrants), it is also true that there is not a nation on this planet that was not settled by immigrants at one time or another.

   

   6. The United States is welcoming legal immigrants. Illegal aliens are not immigrants by definition. The U.S. accepts more lawful immigrants every year than the rest of the world combined.

   

   7. There is no such thing as the "Hispanic vote". Hispanics are white, brown, black and every shade in between. Hispanics are Republicans, Democrats, Anarchists, Communists, Marxists and Independents. The so-called "Hispanic vote" is a myth. Pandering to illegal aliens to get the Hispanic vote is a dead end.

   

   8. Mexico is NOT a friend of the United States. Since 1848 Mexicans have resented the United States. During World War I Mexico allowed German Spies to operate freely in Mexico to spy on the U.S. During World War II Mexico allowed the Axis powers to spy on the U.S. from Mexico. During the Cold War Mexico allowed spies hostile to the U.S. to operate freely. The attack on the Twin Towers in 2001 was cheered and applauded all across Mexico. Today Mexican school children are taught that the U.S. stole California, Arizona, New Mexico and Texas. If you don't believe it, check out some Mexican textbooks written for their school children.

   

   9. Although some illegal aliens enter this country for a better life, there are 6 billion people on this planet. At least 1 billion of those live on less than one dollar a day. If wanting a better life is a valid excuse to break the law and sneak into America, then let's allow those one billion to come to America and we'll turn the USA into a Third World nation overnight. Besides, there are 280 million native born Americans who want a better life. I'll bet Bill Gates and Donald Trump want a better life. When will the USA lifeboat be full? Since when is wanting a better life a good reason to trash another nation?

   

   10. There is a labor shortage in this country. This is a lie. There are hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of American housewives, senior citizens, students, unemployed and underemployed who would gladly take jobs at a decent wage.

   

   11. Is it racist to want secure borders? What is racist about wanting secure borders and a secure America? What is racist about not wanting people to sneak into America and steal benefits we have set aside for legal aliens, senior citizens, children and other legal residents? What is it about race that entitles people to violate our laws, steal identities, and take the American Dream without paying the price?

   

   For about four decades American politicians have refused to secure our borders and look after the welfare of middle class Americans. These politicians have been of both parties. A huge debt to American society has resulted. This debt will be satisfied and the interest will be high. There has already been riots in the streets by illegal aliens and their supporters. There will be more. You, as a politician, have a choice to offend the illegal aliens who have stolen into this country and demanded the rights afforded to U.S. citizens, or to offend those of us who are stakeholders in this country. The interest will be steep either way. There will be civil unrest. There will be a reckoning. Do you have the courage to do what is right for America? Or, will you bow to the wants and needs of those who don't even have the right to remain here?

   

   There will be a reckoning. It will come in November of this year, again in 2008 and yet again in 2010.

   

   We will not allow America to be stolen by third world agitators and thieves.

   

   David J. Stoddard

   U.S. Border Patrol (RET)

   Hereford, Arizona

   

   

   if you doubt any of the facts he stated, do the research. prove him wrong.

phh forget UK try canada its 10x worse u see more asians then locals its unbelievable canada is called the melting pot plus theres lots of jobs here in Canada for them thats y them come, they come stay for 2 months then move to a different city and on and on,

   

   i have a job and im 16 and ive been there the longest of all employees and people come in and just cus im younger i get shit on, i gotta do the bitch work while all they do is cut the wood even tho i have more expierence and ive been in the country longer and ive had the job alot longer,

   

   does that make sense jas? it doesnt to me

i have NO problem with any and all immigrants coming to america seeking a job/better life. hell i have NO problem with a immigrant or individual coming to america to work and then go back home. IF they follow the laws. hell, while here they can say anything about my country they want if they want and get paid, it's their right.

   

   just follow the laws and the door's open.

Im withdrawing my last post, this reminds me of that other thread i deleted, it things get out of hand or personal ill be doing the same here.

understood sir. i'm personally NOT going to hold a vendetta for anything said in here or any other off topic thread.

ok ok post over

   

   what i ment by the lost fingers was

   

   you said in your post you had 4 words for me but there were 5 "give an aborigine your job"

   so i figured you couldnt count to five

crap, i lost count; good eye jas. now i get it.

Jas can count - good, we just need to learn him how to spell and we can get him a job maybe

me speaks Heaps gooder english than you i do

   

   i could decide whice response to write so ill put both

   

   1.

   

   i got a few pages into the dictionary then i got board with the story and put it down

   i think it has somthing to do with an aardvark on a boat

   what a lame idea for a story

   

   

   2.

   

   i only like books on tape

   so i didnt learn that much from the dictionary

   but on the up side my pronunciation is great

Hehe i wouldnt worry m8y you do a grand job

Hmmm , follow the laws ?... USA should practice what they preach ...you invade and attack other countries with NO proof what so ever but a bunch of lies ,,thy shall not kill  ! practice .... obey the laws!! lol yeah right!!

come back at me when your country wasn't formally a prison colony, k ? this thread is for the big boys now dixie, we'll call you when we need a fourth bruce to play ''hide the croc''. just sit down and put your head on the desk until you're original .

original or not the truth is the truch

   

   your country is full of lies and deception

   your country the richest and most powerful in the wourd

   but still has one of the highest poverty and crime rates of all the 1st world countries

   you speak of nucluler dissarmerment, yet your have more nukes than any1

   you feel you have the right to be the nuculer police, yet you the only country to ever use one in agression

   you create enemies as an excuse to moniter everyone

   every time there is a controversy in the government you just start a war to destract people

   you deliberatly keep other countries down so you can exploit them

   you make prisons that are outside the bounderies of the law

   where your army weapons become obsolete you funnel them off to other peoples wars

   your president is a coke head

   a city floods and shit all is done about it

   you all like guns

   your government suppresses technoligy

   You want to build a big wall to keep out the foriners

   you still use inumane weapons like land mines and cluster bombs when nearly every1 else has singed treaties banning them

   you think that any1 who doesnt like america is a terrorist

   you think you are gods choosen people

   you think that people hate america because there jelous

   

   

   you want to be a shining light for democracy, yet your government is riddled with corruption

   

   

   what are the chances (In a TRUE democracy) of 2 or more mebers of the same family becoming president

   you still have death penalty

   

   

   so why dont you go away and come back when your country wasnt built on the backs of slaves

Jas, there's no point in an argument like this. I agree with some of your points, but you cannot blame the ordinary folk.

   

   Cobz, you're right, this thread would be better off closed.

   

   BTW, PKM, you look badass in that pic.

most of your ''facts'' jas are based on the actions of the goverment not the people. if we would like to go tit for tat on countries there are plenty of dark moments in any country's past, including aussieland. your bad move was mentioning building the country on slaves. unless you're an eskimo, no citizen of any country is free from that shame, including your homeland. if you'd like to start a patriotic chest thumping thread, i'll meet you there. this thread was an expression from one citizen of a country to another. you are not a member of this country therefore have no background of which to form a validated opinion. if you were an american citizen OR the guy who had his picture taken with the burrito sign, you'd have your 15 minutes.

   

   rook , on the pic; don't smoke it's bad for you*

   

   

   

   

   

   *[sky]but man is it fun[/sky]

Wow, great thread, split my side a few times.

   

   My 2 opinions real quick. As to ilegal aliens, I pay taxes so the citizens of my country can use the programs that they need to better their lives. When someone comes into the country ileagally, most times they don't pay taxes. As of the moment, the big argument is that they should still be able to use these same programs. THEY SHOULDN'T!

   

   On the topic of th U.S. , Jas had quite a few good points. We are very hipocritical at times. The one sentance I would like to point out though, "You have the richest most powerfull country in the world..." Obviously what we are doing is working then, why stop? Granted we should change a few thing, but not at the expence of diminishing the quality of life we have now.(Speaking of those who have at least a decent life!) And that high poverty rate you spoke of, 15% of our homeless population are ileagal immigrants.

   

   One last thing... "A story about an Aardvark on a boat..." LMFAO, I'm stealing that one!!!

   

   according to jas:

   

   

   

   1 tom and the others shouldn't have run from them, they just want what we have

   2 they have every right to be here, it's a democracy, right ?

   3 we should respect their origins and customs, like spraying red **** everywhere

   4 we (america) were built on slavery so why should we moan about being used by them

   5 it would be wrong (and futile to say the least) to use nuclear weapons on them

   6 we should give them free medical treatment at the tax payers cost to deal with the common cold

   7 they're only taking parts of the world we don't want anymore

   8 they traveled a long distance through many a hardship to get here (space is freakin' cold)

   9 they just want a better life, granted by taking ours

   

I cant understand why Australians are anti-west when they are also out there kicking the bad guys asses alongside USA and UK???

   

   Jas - you go way over the top on your anti-western speeches, do not try to use MRU for your anti-west campaign, it wont work

   

   You cant go blaming America for your own countries failings and im glad they patrol the world to keep the peace, thats all im gonna say ... thread closed!