btw, in response to the ''great american walkout'' yesterday....

[PKM]

i don't think you do understand but i'm not here to rile up too many people[yellow]*[/yellow]. in closing sir, four words...

   

   give an aborigine your job

   

   

   

   

   

   

   

   

   [yellow]admins[/yellow]- please understand the i am aware what this site is based on and that i do understand what this specific forum if for. i will not carry any views/opinions of other members into other forums. this is an offtopic forum and i'll keep my non mohaa opinions in here.

[Guest]

ill give you Five words

   

   I dont have a job

   

   and no wonder your scared about losin ya job to an imigrant

   did ya get a finger cut off or somethin?

[PKM]

i'm retired five years, kid. you'll have to explain

   

   

did ya get a finger cut off or somethin?

   

   to me and it's relevancy to illegal immigrants in my country. in the meantime, read this letter written by a US border patrolman...

   

   

Dear Senator Frist:

   There is a huge amount of propaganda and myths circulating about illegal aliens, particularly illegal Mexican, Salvadorian, Guatemalan and Honduran aliens.

   

   1. Illegal aliens generally do NOT want U.S. citizenship. Americans are very vain thinking that everybody in the world wants to be a U.S. citizen. Mexicans, and other nationalities want to remain citizens of their home countries while obtaining the benefits offered by the United States such as employment, medical care, in-state tuition, government subsidized housing and free education for their offspring. Their main attraction is employment and their loyalty usually remains at home. They want benefits earned and subsidized by middle class Americans. What illegal aliens want are benefits of American residence without paying the price.

   

   2. There are no jobs that Americans won't do. Illegal aliens are doing jobs that Americans can't take and still support their families. Illegal aliens take low wage jobs, live dozens in a single residence home, share expenses and send money to their home country. There are no jobs that Americans won't do for a decent wage.

   

   3. Every person who illegally entered this nation left a home. They are NOT homeless and they are NOT Americans. Some left jobs in their home countries. They come to send money to their real home as evidenced by the more than 20 billion dollars sent out of the country each year by illegal aliens. These illegal aliens knowingly and willfully entered this nation in violation of the law and therefore assumed the risk of detection and deportation. Those who brought their alien children assumed the responsibility and risk on behalf of their children.

   

   4. Illegal aliens are NOT critical to the economy. Illegal aliens constitute less than 5% of the workforce. However, they reduce wages and benefits for lawful U.S. residents.

   

   5. This is NOT an immigrant nation. There are 280 million native born Americans. While it is true that this nation was settled and founded by immigrants (legal immigrants), it is also true that there is not a nation on this planet that was not settled by immigrants at one time or another.

   

   6. The United States is welcoming legal immigrants. Illegal aliens are not immigrants by definition. The U.S. accepts more lawful immigrants every year than the rest of the world combined.

   

   7. There is no such thing as the "Hispanic vote". Hispanics are white, brown, black and every shade in between. Hispanics are Republicans, Democrats, Anarchists, Communists, Marxists and Independents. The so-called "Hispanic vote" is a myth. Pandering to illegal aliens to get the Hispanic vote is a dead end.

   

   8. Mexico is NOT a friend of the United States. Since 1848 Mexicans have resented the United States. During World War I Mexico allowed German Spies to operate freely in Mexico to spy on the U.S. During World War II Mexico allowed the Axis powers to spy on the U.S. from Mexico. During the Cold War Mexico allowed spies hostile to the U.S. to operate freely. The attack on the Twin Towers in 2001 was cheered and applauded all across Mexico. Today Mexican school children are taught that the U.S. stole California, Arizona, New Mexico and Texas. If you don't believe it, check out some Mexican textbooks written for their school children.

   

   9. Although some illegal aliens enter this country for a better life, there are 6 billion people on this planet. At least 1 billion of those live on less than one dollar a day. If wanting a better life is a valid excuse to break the law and sneak into America, then let's allow those one billion to come to America and we'll turn the USA into a Third World nation overnight. Besides, there are 280 million native born Americans who want a better life. I'll bet Bill Gates and Donald Trump want a better life. When will the USA lifeboat be full? Since when is wanting a better life a good reason to trash another nation?

   

   10. There is a labor shortage in this country. This is a lie. There are hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of American housewives, senior citizens, students, unemployed and underemployed who would gladly take jobs at a decent wage.

   

   11. Is it racist to want secure borders? What is racist about wanting secure borders and a secure America? What is racist about not wanting people to sneak into America and steal benefits we have set aside for legal aliens, senior citizens, children and other legal residents? What is it about race that entitles people to violate our laws, steal identities, and take the American Dream without paying the price?

   

   For about four decades American politicians have refused to secure our borders and look after the welfare of middle class Americans. These politicians have been of both parties. A huge debt to American society has resulted. This debt will be satisfied and the interest will be high. There has already been riots in the streets by illegal aliens and their supporters. There will be more. You, as a politician, have a choice to offend the illegal aliens who have stolen into this country and demanded the rights afforded to U.S. citizens, or to offend those of us who are stakeholders in this country. The interest will be steep either way. There will be civil unrest. There will be a reckoning. Do you have the courage to do what is right for America? Or, will you bow to the wants and needs of those who don't even have the right to remain here?

   

   There will be a reckoning. It will come in November of this year, again in 2008 and yet again in 2010.

   

   We will not allow America to be stolen by third world agitators and thieves.

   

   David J. Stoddard

   U.S. Border Patrol (RET)

   Hereford, Arizona

   

   

   if you doubt any of the facts he stated, do the research. prove him wrong.

[habsey]

phh forget UK try canada its 10x worse u see more asians then locals its unbelievable canada is called the melting pot plus theres lots of jobs here in Canada for them thats y them come, they come stay for 2 months then move to a different city and on and on,

   

   i have a job and im 16 and ive been there the longest of all employees and people come in and just cus im younger i get shit on, i gotta do the bitch work while all they do is cut the wood even tho i have more expierence and ive been in the country longer and ive had the job alot longer,

   

   does that make sense jas? it doesnt to me

[PKM]

i have NO problem with any and all immigrants coming to america seeking a job/better life. hell i have NO problem with a immigrant or individual coming to america to work and then go back home. IF they follow the laws. hell, while here they can say anything about my country they want if they want and get paid, it's their right.

   

   just follow the laws and the door's open.

[Cobra {sfx}]

Im withdrawing my last post, this reminds me of that other thread i deleted, it things get out of hand or personal ill be doing the same here.

[PKM]

understood sir. i'm personally NOT going to hold a vendetta for anything said in here or any other off topic thread.

[Guest]

ok ok post over

   

   what i ment by the lost fingers was

   

   you said in your post you had 4 words for me but there were 5 "give an aborigine your job"

   so i figured you couldnt count to five

[PKM]

crap, i lost count; good eye jas. now i get it.

[Cobra {sfx}]

Jas can count - good, we just need to learn him how to spell and we can get him a job maybe

[Guest]

me speaks Heaps gooder english than you i do

   

   i could decide whice response to write so ill put both

   

   1.

   

   i got a few pages into the dictionary then i got board with the story and put it down

   i think it has somthing to do with an aardvark on a boat

   what a lame idea for a story

   

   

   2.

   

   i only like books on tape

   so i didnt learn that much from the dictionary

   but on the up side my pronunciation is great

[Cobra {sfx}]

Hehe i wouldnt worry m8y you do a grand job

[dixie265]

Hmmm , follow the laws ?... USA should practice what they preach ...you invade and attack other countries with NO proof what so ever but a bunch of lies ,,thy shall not kill  ! practice .... obey the laws!! lol yeah right!!

[PKM]

come back at me when your country wasn't formally a prison colony, k ? this thread is for the big boys now dixie, we'll call you when we need a fourth bruce to play ''hide the croc''. just sit down and put your head on the desk until you're original .

[Guest]

original or not the truth is the truch

   

   your country is full of lies and deception

   your country the richest and most powerful in the wourd

   but still has one of the highest poverty and crime rates of all the 1st world countries

   you speak of nucluler dissarmerment, yet your have more nukes than any1

   you feel you have the right to be the nuculer police, yet you the only country to ever use one in agression

   you create enemies as an excuse to moniter everyone

   every time there is a controversy in the government you just start a war to destract people

   you deliberatly keep other countries down so you can exploit them

   you make prisons that are outside the bounderies of the law

   where your army weapons become obsolete you funnel them off to other peoples wars

   your president is a coke head

   a city floods and shit all is done about it

   you all like guns

   your government suppresses technoligy

   You want to build a big wall to keep out the foriners

   you still use inumane weapons like land mines and cluster bombs when nearly every1 else has singed treaties banning them

   you think that any1 who doesnt like america is a terrorist

   you think you are gods choosen people

   you think that people hate america because there jelous

   

   

   you want to be a shining light for democracy, yet your government is riddled with corruption

   

   

   what are the chances (In a TRUE democracy) of 2 or more mebers of the same family becoming president

   you still have death penalty

   

   

   so why dont you go away and come back when your country wasnt built on the backs of slaves